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Spazmagi
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Howdy there, fellow growers! I will happily be joining this fruit-filled locomotive in the NYGC2020 funtime bonanza! I was graciously invited by @NAKEDGARDENER and @DrCoco to grow Pineapple Express by G13 Labs as a sort-of comparison. I have grown Pineapple Express Auto by Barney's Farm previously, so I, too, am excited to see what similarities and differences she exhibits. I'm also curious to see how uniformly the genetics from FastBuds are on such an excellent strain as Pineapple Express.

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G13 Labs says that their Pineapple Express has a flowering time of ~55 days, so it's still pretty quick, even as a photo. I plan on flipping to flower fairly close to when the Autos start to flower. In my experience with Autos, they usually start to bud around week 4-5, but I'm pretty flexible. I aim for a 5 week veg, but it will really depend on how vigorous she is. I've had fairly good results with DWC so far, so I don't expect any issues.

Here is an outline of my intended process as it stands now:

>At Midnight I will drop the seed into a shot-glass of tap water and 12 hours later (Noon CST, 1 Jan 2020) I will remove the seed from the glass and place into the Rockwool cube (It's what works for me).
>She will be germinated in a 2" Rockwool cube, soaked in pH'ed water with RapidStart and placed in a makeshift humidity dome (1L bottle), on a heating mat, under a 2' 4-bulb T5HO fixture (AgroFlex).
>4-6 weeks of veg at 18/6 or 20/4 (Depends on lighting). Transitioning from T5 to LED/LEC somewhere around week 2-3.
>8 weeks of flower (per ~55 day breeder timeline), but will ultimately chop based on trichomes, regardless of timeline.

I will make a post later detailing the nutrient schedule for the vegetative phase, so keep an eye out for that. Any questions or comments are always welcome.

Thanks for checking out the journal and I'm looking forward to a very green 2020 with all of you.

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Spazmagi
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A happy new decade to all! Here begins the new life of one lovely lady (To Be Named...). Pineapple Express by G13 Labs.

As stated by G13 Labs themselves:

Selected Skunks got crossed with Big Bud in need to create feminized Sativa / Indica variety. Received strain is G13 Labs Seeds best seller and multiple awards winner. Its aromatic qualities stand out of the rest, the flavours of lemon combined with other fruits produce an intense high. This is one of the best yielding plants in the cannabis seeds world. Its medium height makes it easy to cultivate and its short flowering period means it can be cultivated in every type of climate. Massive, heavy and compact flowers are providing strong lemony aroma and taste. The effect is powerful, balanced and leads into cerebral high with relaxing sensation.

Flowering Time : 55 Days

So, here she is awaiting the genesis...

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A few minutes later...

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While she is soaking, I am preparing her next stage of development.

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2" GRO-DAN Rockwool cube
pH: 5.6
EC: 0.5 (250ppm)

After 12 hours, the rockwool cube will be drained and the 5.6pH tap water will have a dose of GH RapidStart added to it. This solution will be the wicking solution that the cube will sit in under a 2' 4-bulb T5HO (105w, AgroFlex) set to ~12" until the seed sprouts. Also, under the board this is sitting on is a heated seedling mat.

Thanks for stopping by the garden and keep an eye out for frequent updates; 2020 needs as much Grower Love as we can give it.

~Spaz

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Posted : 12/31/2019 9:20 pm CocoNoko, Dr Coco and missourimedical liked
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Spazmagi
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~Audentes Fortuna Iuvat~

8 Hours! Only 8 hours and seed has sunk!

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Well, off she goes into her new home...

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In the makeshift humidity dome, you can see some wicking solution under the rockwool cube. This should be just right to kick start her germination.

Wicking Solution:
2ml/Gal GH RapidStart
pH: 5.5; EC: 540 (270ppm)

I will make frequent updates as things progress, so stay tuned in! (I'm not sure about "turned on", but definitely don't "drop out!" - That's a rare pop culture reference from yours truly!)

Thanks to everyone for your support and let's make these roaring 20's better than the last ones!

~Spaz

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Spazmagi
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~Non Ducor Duco~

Just over 24 hours since she was dropped into water. No noticeable difference since she has entered her rockwool nest, though I suspect (via Keen Eye; +1d6 Perception) that she has already cracked and her taproot is extending as we speak.

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24:30:00 since soak began.
16:00:00 since placed in rockwool.

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Temp and RH at optimal levels.

Frequent updates incoming, and, as always, Grower Love!

~Spaz

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NYGC2020 - In absentia lucis, Tenebrae vincunt

~In absentia lucis, Tenebrae vincunt~

She has sprouted! Well, a taproot at least. 24:00:00 since going into the rockwool. I can see where the seed has cracked and her taproot is, indeed, searching! I tried to take a picture of it, but I can't get it to light up down inside the rockwool with my phone camera. Nevertheless, she is doing well so far and we should see cotyledons soon! Starting off The New Twenties correctly!

Grower Love,
~Spaz

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T+40h:30m:00  I was finally able to get a good picture where you can see her radicle extending down. Might even get a good helmet pic!

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Probably making excessive updates, but this is the most exciting time of rapid change! Grower Love to one and all,

~Spaz

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Spazmagi
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I awoke this morning to find that a breaker had tripped in the night and I'm not sure how long it had been off. The garage wasn't to terribly cold when I went in, but nevertheless, I hope she doesn't suffer for it during this crucial time.

T+2d:00h:30m

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T+2d:07h:00m

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Everything is back on and running and updates will continue! Thanks for stopping by the garden, and Grower Love!

~Spaz

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NYGC2020 - Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixture dementia fuit

~Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixture dementia fuit~

Just over 2.5 days has passed since the seed got wet. She has made good progress so far, despite her sad shock this morning. She still looks happy and healthy. She also shed her seed like that all by herself. Usually, I've had to pop them off cause they end up sticking to one of the cotyledons.

T+2d:11h:00m

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T+2d:15h:50m

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Updates abound and will continue as changes occur. I hope my detail can be helpful to someone and if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. Grower Love,

~Spaz

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~Creo quia absurdum est~

T+03d:00h:35m

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Updates are still averaging every 6-8 hours. I promise they will slow down as distinguishability decreases.

You can see that by the third day she has shed her seed shell and the protective coating from her cotyledons. Her first set of leaves is developing well and soon will start her vegetative trek. Grower Love to one and all,

~Spaz

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~Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc~

T+04d:10h:20m

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I had some company over yesterday so I was "Out of Office" for most of the day, but here she is as of this morning. She is pushing about 3-4cm tall and the lights are set ~15cm away from the top of the bottle.

You guys (and gals?) are the best. Thanks for stopping by the garden, and, as always, Grower Love.

~Spaz

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NYGC2020 - Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo

~Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo~

T+04d:22h:30m

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Here she is, about to crest into Day 5. You can see her first leaves, and even the budding tips of her second set?!?! Talk about Choo-Choo!! The routine should stay unchanged until Day 6, most likely. At that point she will get a cover over the cube, the dome will be removed, and a fan placed in that space to help strengthen her during this formative phase.

I am so thankful to have found such a wonderful community of growers. Thanks for stopping by the garden, and as always, Grower Love.

~Spaz

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Spazmagi
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~ancora imparo~

Early morning quick update! Growth is going well. Just a hair over 4cm, but finally rooted out the bottom! 😀 

T+05d:07h:00m

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Now it's off to work! I'll be checking on her at ~4-5 hour intervals today. Grower Love,

~Spaz

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One week in! She is starting to put off some real leaves and should begin accelerating her photosynthesis!

T+07d:07h:11m

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Grower Love,
~Spaz

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~luce veritatis; lucem sequimur~

T+09d:00h:00m

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Well, here she is just 9 days from getting dunked; steadily growing along. On Monday (1/13/2020) my new tent should arrive along with my new lights. This will allow me to move my flowering ladies over and thus have room to place this little gal into a 3.5 Gal bucket. At that point, she will be transitioned to Early Veg nutes and be top-fed until her roots hit the water. If my last run with these Rhizocore net-basket things is any indication, that should take maybe 3-5 days. This is just an estimate of the timeline since last time I hadn't let them grow as much of a taproot before placing them into the buckets. It is definitely likely that it will only take 2-3 days with her much longer roots. 

Grower Love and thanks for stopping by the garden,
~Spaz

 

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NYGC 2020 - PE Auto Comparison - Lux veritas peritia populo nostro

~Lux veritas peritia populo nostro~

T+10d:15h:00m

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10 days from seed? Indeed!  Looks like it's time to upsize this little gal. I've mentioned a few times about how I use Rhizocore net pots and I think this will help clarify why...

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Take the cube, remove the plastic wrapper, and thread the roots through the center of the net pot. As you can see, the roots won't have to dig around in search of the nutrients; they will be able to make a rapid drop straight into the nutrient solution below.

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Once she is situated properly, I covered the rest of her up with more hydroton (well rinsed beforehand).

I choose to top feed a few times a day by hand, but a simple dripper could easily be rigged up (or even a drip ring). I also have an air-pump-driven drip ring (GH WaterFarm Kit), but it isn't conducive to be adapted to this size pot. In the future, I will get some larger (8" or 10") Rhizocore net pots with which I can combine them into a top-drip DWC driven by a single air pump (rather than having a separate liquid feed pump for the dripper). 

As far as nutrients go, I chose a middle-ground between "Seedling" and "Early Veg", as follows (in order; mL/US Gal):

  1. 0.5ml Armor Si
  2. 2.5ml FloraMicro
  3. 1.25ml FloraGro
  4. 1.25ml FloraBloom
  5. 2.5ml Diamond Nectar
  6. 1ml RapidStart
  7. 2ml Botanicare Hydroguard

Between Diamond Nectar and RapidStart, she was set for a pH of 6.0, which was later adjusted after aerating, but before the seedling was transplanted. Current EC, including Tap value (0.36EC), rests around 0.9EC. 

Expected drift of 5.8-6.2pH.
Temp range of 70-77F.

All that was left to do was move her under the light, set up a gentle fan, and ensure thorough oxygenation of the nutrient solution.

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As observed over the last few days, her top growth has slowed as she continues to expand her root system in search of more nutrients. Soon, she shall have all she needs for the time being. Until then, I will continue to top feed her 4-5x daily.

Grower Love and thanks for stopping by the garden,
~Spaz

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