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Welcome to this Falls Plant Training Grow Challenge and to the Non-Toppers! Let's see ours ladies how nature intended... sort of 😉 
Setting up my Candy cane Auto flower in Coco Perlite and High Frequency Fertigation HFF. 
I'll be starting with the [advanced platinum] P-150 light for seedling to young veg and then to the MarsHydro TS-1000 through to harvest.
Nutrient line General Hydroponics Trio, GH including Armour SI, Calimagic & Diamond Nectar.
Water drop then paper towel after 24 hrs. When tap root s shows, into Jiffy till roots appear and then into germination bag with Buffered Coco perlite. Final Pot 3 gal fab.

I have a 36x20x62 Tent I plan to fill up as much as I can with this Auto Flower!

I will also be putting a Clone, Cement Shoe's into the party Cup Challenge.

Growing together but never growing alone! 
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Posted : 08/14/2020 4:58 pm siscoweb, Chefomj and MedicalTrichome liked

This hopefully doesn't denote the rest of my grow lol 
I didn't record the time I dropped the seed 😏 

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but there is a crack in her seem! 😊 
Once I get home we'll see and maybe have to get the Jiffy ready

Posted : 08/15/2020 9:59 pm siscoweb and MedicalTrichome liked

So I took the cracked seed and placed it in paper towel on the heat mat (temps of mat, no idea. Temp of veg tent 26-28, rH 60-62%) once I got home from work and I hope to see a tail 🤩 

Posted : 08/17/2020 1:46 am siscoweb liked

I guess I should wait till I get home but I forgot to add my Party Cup! I topped a different plant, Cement Shoe's Photo period.

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I will be doing drain to waist but I might try a recycle when she has used up the party cup space with roots. And this in one of the contraptions I threw together for it.

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The Clone have two side shoots I left in hopes of having 3 colas 😀
Maybe this pail later on if when the recycle doesn't work or to hard to maintain

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And already in the cup! 

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Oh yeah and I have cheese cloth lining the bottom to assist in containing the roots. Any that come out will either be air pruned or cut off. 

Posted : 08/17/2020 5:00 am siscoweb and CanNateBis liked
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Yeah I got some tail this morning 🤩 

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She is now in the buffered Coco perlite and hope to see her head pocking out tomorrows or the next day.
I'll be mixing the first seedling mix once the cotyledons open. 

Posted : 08/17/2020 10:25 pm siscoweb and Brain Strap OG liked
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I think Cement Shoes is showing some new top growth
The day she went into the cup

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Tonight before work, don't let the close up fool you, it's 90` turned lol

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I am finding the jiffy loose in the coco... let's hope she becomes more stable as her roots develop.
I've got her on the [Doc's] early veg nutrients and already moved up to the target EC and pH. May keep up with that or move to mid-veg. For some reason I recall I used late veg nutes once clones were rooted lol Guess who didn't or can't find where he recorded that lol Tip burn might have been from the rooting hormone as it was there after the cut to clone.

Posted : 08/18/2020 11:37 pm siscoweb and CanNateBis liked
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Progress yay

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Coco was buffered soak with 1276 EC Calmag. Then one gallon Calmag (1.75ml) and rapid start (2ml) Ec 465, pH 4.35 (I know) to rinse & drain coco for seedling.
Runoff from that was Ec 561, pH 6.42.
First nute event seedling mix, Ec 434, pH 5.91. Runoff is to minimal to get the meter to get an accurate reading for the first few events. I think I will just use more per event to get a reading. Waste of nutes but will keep the coco "flushed" as well so to speak.
2nd day and event 07:00 Ec 550, pH__/ 19:00 Ec 665
3rd Day 07:00 Ec 778, pH 6.12/ 19:00 Ec 820
4th 08:00 Ec 830/ 19:00 Ec 970
5th [Days off can do 3 events per] Day 00:00 Ec 1078, 13:00 Ec 965, 18:300 Ec 1110

I was giving about 100ml but measuring 200ml for the meters. I will start 

Posted : 08/22/2020 5:46 pm siscoweb, GrowingUpNorth and Chefomj liked

Part Cup Roots already out the bottom. Cheese cloth is doing a pretty good job keeping them in I think though. 
Top new growth not showing deficiencies in new growth 🙂  

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I'll see how these roots go, if they air prune or not. If not I'll take em off

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I choose to do a little surgery. I need to take a better pic but I took off the "3rd" node (and the fan leaf today, not done in photo) to open her up for the lower two nodes I intent to keep (5 tops including the main) and I took off the "4th" node flower site and left the Fan leaves [for now]

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She is definitely showing new growth and adding to her height. 

Posted : 08/24/2020 11:07 pm siscoweb, CrackBabies and Chefomj liked

Under the P-150 and just the veg switched on in the veg tent she's moving slowly 

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I've been moving in coco as well as potted her up to her neck as you can see from the previous entry lol 
Seedling mix but of course I left my had written journal at home...

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This is my new Journal for future grows, not this grow challenge though. Still fun lol 😉 

Party Cup is partying on late Veg nutes

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Posted : 08/26/2020 11:07 pm OCGrower76, siscoweb, CanNateBis and 1 people liked
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Just loving the auto flower! She is very very tights with her node spacing!!

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Party Cup doesn't want to wait to be flipped lol 

Posted : 08/31/2020 9:57 pm OCGrower76, CodyDub, siscoweb and 1 people liked

I need to get an update pic of the party cut. She's about 7-8 inches, roots are doing well air pruning themselves. The four sides are not shooting up to the top as I thought they might, like I've seen before. So I squeezed the main stem to kinda super crop but not bending her over (hehehe sorry) but to 1. maybe slow down the top growth from the bruising and 2nd fatten up that main stem. She seems to have done number two (oh man what is with me tonight lol) 

As for Candy, she's coming along. 
Inflow is averaging 1100 +/- EC. I would aim higher but when you make your initial mix and it reads out just below target you leave it. Well I do. I wouldn't know who to bring it up safely, don't think you really can.
Runoff has been very good with 100+ points from inflow and fertigating twice a day during my work wk and 3 events on my days off. 

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I can't believe how squat she is with the node spacing. 
I'm assuming its because I had the Veg light on not both switches from the start but now have them both on. 
Oh and the pH I have been hitting low 5.8 most the time but once a wk I go to just under the 6.3 and my temps are 24-27 c and rH a nice steady %62

Grower Luv Growmies 

Posted : 09/03/2020 2:09 am CanNateBis, CodyDub, CrackBabies and 1 people liked
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PARTY CUP Shots from this morning as promised, did I promise? Bah who cares here they are lol 

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On ig I was asked if I was going to top her...
She has the two nodes 4 branches at the base so I could. Could even clone the top lol But I can't start cloning every cut again! No no Dan you just can't! lol 
If I don't top, it's a flip next wk, like monday. If I top then I could make it to Oct 1st if not a wk before. This will give me those 4 tops and let me flip on time. But being in the non-topper, even though the rule isn't stuck on the Party cups I sorta want to stick to the non topping with her lol 

Posted : 09/03/2020 11:29 pm OCGrower76, CanNateBis, CodyDub and 2 people liked
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Photo Dump lol 
EC inflow is avg. 1150 pH 6 +/-
Moved into the flower tent and a slight tip burn showing (possibly from the few 1200+EC) and some odd looking new growth. Getting close the the auto flip date 😓 So I will start transition nutes and the EC is already set lower but I'll keep the early flower nute EC lower as well.

Posted : 09/08/2020 11:57 pm CanNateBis, siscoweb and OCGrower76 liked
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So Candy has some weird looking top leaf growth going on and maybe signs of her starting to the autoflower and what I am calling the vegetative and flower stretch. 

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Posted : 09/11/2020 10:33 pm CanNateBis and Chefomj liked

I hit the EC peak with signs of tip burn. I'll lower the EC but I got a new meter not to long ago and it tells me a way different EC reading then the yellow one I have been using since the start. I'm now wondering if this is also a reason to attribute to my previous (Pro-mix) colones of clones grows and why I never hit the targets of @dr-coco chart and was always low. Luckily I never really adjusted to up the EC but had a few times mixed a less RO volume to get closer to target but that could be what caused other problem, EC read low but was high.

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So this wknd I will see if I can calibrate the yellow one with how the white ones instructions says to do lol Not sure if the yellow can be calibrated but IF I mix the right amount of salt and get an accurate reading on one of them, I'll know the other is out and hope, if the yellow is out I can calibrate but if not, I do have the new one. 

By recollection I will dissolve 342 mg (what the white one says it is calibrated to, also states if you are testing higher EC solutions to calibrate it to a higher number?) or 500 mg of salt to a liter of RO. This should read as 342 ppm or 500 ppm. You then press and hold the mode/calb button till it plashes, turn it off and back on and use the on to raise the number and the hold to lower the number to hit the tds/ppm/ec as close as possible. I hope the yellow is the ones that's way off. Will explain a lot of the past grows and why I have tip burn when I was giving bellow 1000 EC (or 1.0ec) 

Posted : 09/11/2020 10:55 pm Prof-Knows-It-All, Chefomj, OCGrower76 and 1 people liked
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