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Good day Growmies!

They are settled into their Coco homes perfectly. On my end user error I forgot to up my calmag when switching and they started letting me know with iron deficiency and line green new growth. It's been a few days since upping the calmag and the leaves are starting to turn more green. These strains are very light feeders and have not been able to push nutrients to far. The whole line of General Hydroponics is highly concentrated and has been less than ideal when dialing in exactly what these plants need. I found Golden Tree by Humboldt's Secret and was about to buy it but because of the sale and 10% off coupon for the Starter Kit #2 I bought their entire lineup and will be switching to that next week. 

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February 7th Once things started to recover from the LST. 

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February 8th. Filling back out and up. 

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Did some more LST to further extended outward growth and even the canopy. 

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February 8th. After the LST

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February 9th. Turned down for what. These are turning up!

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February 10th. Never understood how people would break branches while in the tent. Well figured it out today. Be careful of your vacuum hose hitting your tops when sucking up runoff! Live and learn. 

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Finally February 11th. They are filling out so well. All reaching the edges of the pots or more. 

Keeping my nutes at about 600ppm right now until Humboldt's Secret line comes in and transition to that. 

For those interested in have been using 

CalMag 5ml per Gal

Micro 2.5ml per Gal

Gro 2.5ml per Gal

Bloom 2ml per gallon

Hydroguard 2ml per gallon every 3rd watering. I know it's mainly made for DWC but I have it and it's only good for 6 months once opened so why not help add that little extra good bacteria to my roots. All the GH nutes will be gifted or put aside for future experimental runs. 

Happy happy so far and so excited to flip into flower soon! Gotta get my Scrog net ready. 

 

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Posted : 02/11/2021 5:26 am

Hiddy Ho Growmies! 

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Yesterday February 12th. Did some light supercropping on almost every branch and started some defoliation of bud sights under the canopy to focus energy on my main tops. Kinda mainlining but started a little late for that so more manifolding and focusing on 8 main branches from 4 different nodes. Definitely want to try a true mainlining with hard tops every couple nodes to create that March Madness bracket style looking structure. I'm starting to think its best for space to only move 3 to the 4x2 tent and leave the biggest in the 2.5x2.5 tent by herself. 

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Today February 13th. The last LST before flower of tieing down branches has served its purpose well. The entire canopy is very nice and even and very full. Finally watering is getting easier and easier every day as they start to put on some height. Amazingly with all the training I've been able to keep them all at about 8 inches in height with about 14-16 inch wing spans. 

Without Dr. Coco reviewing the Viparspectra XS 2000 only the 1500 I'm having to adjust my light a little higher than the 1500 and cant run it at even 75% yet. Hoping he does a full review soon with PAR readings so I know the perfect height for this amazing light. 2nd XS2000 is being delivered today for the flower tent and will put the 1500 back into the 2.5ft tent for the solo lady!

Tested my runoff for shiggles to see if we were in range. The ppm was only 10 points higher than input ppm and pH was up to 6.1 with input pH being between 5.5-5.8 but still very safe numbers. 

Looking to build some Scrog netting out of 1 inch PVC and nylon string. I'll post the details of my build out when I make them. Hopefully Sunday if time permits. 

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Posted : 02/13/2021 6:35 am ChaseG1992 liked

Good day Growmies!

Not quite ready to flip yet. Haha. New nutrients get here tomorrow and should finally have room in my house to get the flower tent setup. Once I put them in the bigger tent I will start the new nutrients on a transition to flower recipe and flip the light schedule to 12/12. The new nutrients have everything I need to pack on the buds to so worth the couple extra days. The breeder said all his testers finished in 63 days si that puts me right on schedule to harvest for 4/20 right as we start our autoflower grows!

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Done a lot of training to keep them low and canopies even. I hope it pays off in the flip because I'm definitely worried about the amount if stretch I'll get. The tents are only 6 feet tall and the lights need 16 inches of clearance! Only time will tell and it will be a great learning experience. 

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Posted : 02/15/2021 9:33 am ChaseG1992 liked

Monday kinda day!!!

This past week has been crazy getting rooms remodeled in my house and trying to get everything done in time for life. Haha. 

I guess we'll start with the sad news first and work our way up... we had our first Male... the better of the 2 Cherry's 😭

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You can see the stem forming under the spade shaped top. They were flush at the base 2 days ago and could've been female but they started producing that stem with the ball on it and it's time to call it. 

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February 16th. The last day all 4 were together. 

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February 17th. And then there was 3. 

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February 18th. Moved them into some new digs. 4x2 tent with 2x Viparspectra XS 2000

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February 19th. Started getting new Humboldts Secret Nutrients. 

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February 19th. Good structure and fat stems. Base stems are fatter than my thumbs and they just started getting silicate in the new lineup so I'm ready to see some tree trunks. 

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February 20th. Wanted to give them more space as they continue to Bush out and for the flower stretch so I moved the solo Cherry into the 2.3x2.3 tent by herself with 1x Viparspectra XS1500

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February 21st. Cherry Diesel. Did some light defoliation removing fan leaves growing into the center of the plant and removed some lower bud sites that will become out of reach if the light as they stretch and it goes higher. 

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Feburary 21st. Both Mango Chow Mein get the same defoliation of inner leaves and lower bud sites. 

Saturday the 20th at 630pm the lights went out for the first time on a 12/12 cycle and the countdown is officially on. I would have loved to train another 2 weeks and and continue to stretch out and utilize a scrog net but time constraints and life require I flip now to keep things progressing in all sectors. 

I will slowly be increasing nutrients to the flower recipe and have all kinds of goodies in the Humbodlts Secret that will surely make for some tasty buds. 

Breeder of these strains says everyone of his continually finish at 63 days so I'll be checking heavily the week of 4/20 for my trichomes changing. 

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Posted : 02/22/2021 2:29 am ChaseG1992 liked

Wassup Growmies!

Start by saying the Humboldt's Secret lineup has been great. Both the Cherry and Mango #1 have fixed their nitrogen toxicity from the General Hydroponics line and Mango #2 is slowly lightening up as well. Think it has more with my pH pen not being calibrated often enough and it was about .3 off so my feeds were going in a little too acidic. 

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February 22nd. Cherry Diesel 

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February 22nd. Mangoes

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February 23rd. Scrogg net arrived. About to lower it. 

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February 23rd. Scrogg net arrived. About to lower it. 

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February 23rd. Cherry. 

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February 23. Mangoes. 

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February 24th. Lights just came on. 

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February 24th. 12 hours later. 

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February 24th. Lights just came on. 

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February 24th. 12 hours later. 

Some how spaced on pics on the 25th. Weird day I guess. Lol. Just been tucking fan leaves that pop up and block bud site. Usually readjusting right before watering in the morning and again before the lights go out. The Cherry probably only need one more day of attention and can let her go wild until harvest. The Mango on the left is also about perfect with coverage and even height on the canopy and may only need one more day. The bigger mango needs a little more attention and manipulation time tucking branches and leaves. 

The scrogg technique brought the canopies down about 4.5 inches on avg which is great because I was worried about final height in the tents. The cherry and smaller mango have adjusted perfectly to the flower week 1 nutes and love every few days when they get golden tree and more benes from Orca and King Krab. So excited for the white hairs to show themselves and really start to get the true smell of these strains in the next few weeks. This has been a great first grow and stoked to be at the 50% mark. Soon I'll have a few under my belt and my own flower to press and smoke. This experience has been everything I thought it could be and more! Love you Growmies!!!

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Posted : 02/26/2021 8:37 am Alma M, ChaseG1992 and CrackBabies liked
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Death to Cherry's. Rise of the Mangoes.

Yo Growmies!

Been a great first week of flower. Havent seen too much stretch using the Scrog netting. Kept the ppm the same this week since they're looking healthy and start the flower stacker next week. Still waiting on those white pistols to show themselves and the funk to really kick up. Moved the tents into my spare bedroom which is officially my grow room now. Dehumidifier coming today for at night when it spikes and new intake and exhaust, most likely going with the AC Infinity Raxial since it's such a simple intake to my hallway and exhaust into my attic. 6" for the intake and 8" for the exhaust creating a slight negative pressure in the room. Light proofing the door has been interesting and seen some different options but definitely open to suggestions. Ps I dont have an actual door just frame and blackout curtain stapled and velcro!

The last and final Cherry Diesel has proven to be Male too! I know it's a 50/50 chance when using regular seeds but both! Man what a sad day. The worst part is my journal is named after the cultivars that ended up being Male. I still have 2 Mango Chow Mein going that I've been following in this thread as well and luckily they both have shown their white pistols overnight and are gonna be making it through.

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See his pair of balls!

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White pistols on the Mango. 

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Last picture of the Cherry before it gets sent to a buddies for breeding or chopped up and thrown in the trash 🙁 

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Latest pic of the Mangoes. 

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Little profile shot. They grown over the net about 4-5 inches and actually stretching the net up in some places so I did my best to untuck some branches and let them go. 

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Other upside, my Mars Hydro SP-3000 came in the mail based off of Dr.Coco's astounding review of it in a 2x4 area. My 2 ViparSpectra XS2000 now go into my 3x4 grow closet that I'm finishing this week and moving my AC Infinity T4 Cloudline for intake and exhaust. I will be growing 6 autos in there so I'm not too worried about light leaks and have a door to close the 4 hours or so I do give them rest. I started the 6 autos yesterday and will chronicle those adventures in a seperate Journal as my first autoflower grow. 

Ps. If anyone knows how to change the name of the entire Journal since I no longer have anymore Cherry Diesel to write about and change it to Mango Chow Mein that would be very helpful! Thank Growmies!

 

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Posted : 03/03/2021 5:37 am ChaseG1992 and Alma M liked

Good day Growmies!

The weeks are just flying by now. No training and just feeding daily and the 12 hours with the room closed it feels like I never see them any more. Dropped my nitrogen levels and upped my phosphorus and potassium. Thet are responding very nicely to the change. I'd say they've put on 6 inches east this week. First week didnt see much stretch but it's happening now. Bud sites are starting to fill in and getting the first signs of real bud development. 1 more week and I will add a PK Booster to increase phosphorus and potassium further. They're drinking a little heavier and watering is staying steady at about 3 quarts each per day to get the desired runoff. Thinking about switching to 2 lighter waterings daily instead the one heavy. 

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March 4th. 

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March 4th. Right needed a little more training on main stems to keep height even. 

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March 5th. 

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March 5th. 

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March 6th. 

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March 6th. 

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March 7th. 

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March 7th. 

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Buds are starting to grow!!!

The anticipation is killin me!

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Posted : 03/08/2021 6:41 am ChaseG1992 liked

Yo yo yo Growmies!

This week is just blowing my mind. The stretch is real. I've been having to raise the light 1/2" per day to keep the 19.5 inches of space required for perfect 1000ppm in the center. I've read the article on here about high frequency fertigation and learned a lot in the beginning and it helped me understand the need for 20% runoff in coco and understood the calculations of about 1 quart for a 5 gallon pot to achieve that runoff. I've never been able achieve that runoff from 1 quart because no one ever said if you're not getting 20% runoff from the 1 quart then you should water more often I always heard people just say water heavier. Since increasing to 3 waterings a day I can achieve my 20% runoff with only 1 quart and still using the same amount of water and nutrients I have been using on one heavy feeding per day. They are responding to changes in nutrients faster and looking so much happier overall. I feel I could've saved so many troubles and worries had I known to water even more often! Today March 11th I started seeing the first frost starting to form on tiny leaves coming out of the bud sites. I can only imagine the how much the funk is going to kick up over the next week now that trichomes are starting to pop. 

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March 8th. 

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March 8th. 

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March 9th. Lights off for more true color. 

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March 9th. 

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March 10th. 

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March 11th. 

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March 11th. 

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March 11th. First day of frost!!!

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March 11th. First day of frost!!!

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Anyone ever see anything like this?! Leaf growing out of a leaf?!

Based on breeders harvest times I'm looking at about 43 days left in flower! So excited for pk booster and see the changes. Until next time!

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Posted : 03/11/2021 4:40 pm ChaseG1992 liked

What up Growmies!

Man what a difference a couple days can make. Been steadily lowering my nitrogen and upping my phosphorus and potassium and think we might be hitting that sweet spot finally. Did a last heavy defoliation on day 21 or end of week 3 of flower. Removed everything below the scrog net. Removed all big fan leaves that had long stems that would only block out light and never get frosty for trim. Also added my pk booster to my last 2 waterings yesterday and I dont know if it was the pruning directing energy up or the booster but there was explosive growth on the pistols and trichomes last night. Seen some pictures from day 30 of flower from the breeder and they were looking right and heavy trichomes. I have not been able to follow any sort of recommended guidelines for feeding based on the bottle and listening to my plants. They say always go 1:1 ratio with Base A and B nutrients but the ratios are too far off and my plants were showing nitrogen toxicity and phosphorus deficiency both at the same time. I love the Golden Tree product fron Humboldts Secret but there new base nutrients have not been very user friendly at least with this strain. I may try it on a different strain but as of now I'm not impressed and will likely be switching to something else after this grow if I make it until the end with the nutrients I even have. Lol. Mills pays the Bill's and Heavy 16 are both high contenders in my next test and another new player to the field Shogun is specifically made for coco and may give it a try! Blah blah blah, onto the pictures!

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March 12th. Before defoliation. 

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March 12th. Before defoliation. 

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March 12th. After defoliation. 

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March 12th. After defoliation. 

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March 13th. Tops are whiter with all the new hairs. 

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March 13th. Lights off shot. You can see the right is still a little darker and recovering slower and wanting more phosphorus!

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March 13th. Raised the net to better support big fat buds! Think they may have stopped stretching. I didnt have to raise the light this morning but we will see later. 

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March 13th. Money shot. This one has more trichomes. 

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March 13th. Money shot. This one has more pistols. 

Definitely getting the whiff from the grow room when I walk past it at night. Makes me smile every time. Be back in a couple days with more updates and pictures for sure. Stay classy Growmies!

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Posted : 03/13/2021 4:40 am ChaseG1992 liked

What's happening Growmies?!

Feels like I'm on autopilot now! Did a 4 day flush with just pHed water because of the nitrogen toxicity and to flush out old nutrients before starting the Heavy 16 line. The plants loved the flush and the ppm from runoff was still high for 3 days and finally started to drop. That alone led me to start alternating feeding and watering days instead of fertigation daily. I'm sure there are some strains that could handle that but these have been very finicky. I also started only using my calmag on watering days to cut down on the amount of nitrogen on feeding days. The right plant has already started to show the need for less nutrients and have decided to start mixing the nutrients for each plant instead of feeding them the same amount. Luckily the 3 clones I took are from the left which is much more forgiving and producing much bigger buds because of it. The Heavy 16 lineup is beautiful. You can tell the water is really alive with the amount of bubbles produced when mixing. Everything is 8 bottles and you only use 5 of them in Veg and 6 of them in Bud. No need to pH your water or worry about ppms just follow the feeding schedule on the back of the bottles or if the plants can handle it use their Heavy Feed chart. My pH is always between 5.7 and 6.2!!! Based on pictures online I feel like the left is on pace to be a healthy producer, the right I'm more concerned about, but they are super frosty and covered in trichomes and know either way I'll get really good hash and rosin press from both! The trichomes when bumped are the sweetest smelling buds I've ever smelt and can only imagine how they will taste and smell once fully cured! 

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March 14th. 

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March 23rd. 

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March 23rd. This leaf tip kept rubbing against the trichomes until it made it's own hash and now its stuck like that!!!

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March 25th. This profile clearly shows the effects the excess nitrogen has had on the production of the right plant. Luckily all 3 clones are from the left!

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March 25th. 

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March 25th. Oh yeah they're gonna be just fine!

Missed a few days there with family in town. About 1 month left until harvest and cant wait to see them keep getting fatter and fatter!!!

Stay safe and keep growing! Later Growmies!

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Posted : 03/25/2021 7:34 am ChaseG1992 and CodFishJoe liked
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