PTGC NonToppers: Random Bagseed - DWC
i've decided to make a journal here, since i have 8x random bagseed, it is unknown what will pop out of these, so instead of wasting time topping and mainlining, just to find a male or herm, i'll grow 'au natural' with some lst , supercroping and chiropractics to widen the canopy.
from my misfit journal...
I was unable to score clones as planned and was going to pick these 2 auto strains, Amnesia Haze XL and OG kush, both autos from QCS along with 2x King Kush photo bagseed, .........but then decided for random bagseed photoperiods, feeling lucky
i already have way too much stock, so want to see what's in the random bagseed lot (i think there's some blue magic and black tuna in there) pheno hunt (if i see something real nice, cuttings )
going with 8 plants again, SOG i guess, gonna flip quick for small plants, as an experiment, this all depends on how quick they grow, need good root mass too
Will be starting them all out in a 4x2 (x60") with a mars ts1000w, then switch to the 240w QB, then move them to a 5x5 (x80") with 2 240w QBs and the mars if needed
I'm gonna go with 8 total plants, plopped in water Aug 21st, in paper towel/ziplock for 24hrs on 22nd and into rooters this morning
PS will not be updating the misfit journal anymore and will refer that one to this one 😉
DWC 8 plants / 2 methods
One 70l tote with 3" netpots for all 8 at first
then switch'em to one 70L tote per 2 plants, 5" netpots for 4 of them (2 totes)
the other 4 stay in that first 70l tote cover staying in their 3" netpots (4 plants in one tote, another experiment )
for the 4 in one tote idea, i have a 107L tote, same size but deeper, i already have it, bonus, will use that one for the 4 plants in the 3" net pots, found some wide lip netpots that'll be perfect, i'll have 4 on that lid and moving it over a bit for water changes and ec/ph checks, needs to be sturdy
gonna have a little water pump in each tote (like last grow) for circulation, have a bigger one for the 107L, really like the stability of the water PH/EC in a bigger volume of water, and the communal aspects in the roots. only thing is, if something does happen in the roots, all plants may get affected, i have some beneficial bacteria, so not too worried, worked out real good last grow, and my water temps are high.
the other 2 totes are fine with the 5" netpots just sitting in their holes, much better quality, durable and reusable (actually are 5.5" from the specs)
alrighty, had some tails this morning on 6-8
so I plopped them in my rapid rooters (upside down and split down the middle) tail down about 1.5cm from surface (I wedged the little pieces i cut off the top (now bottom) of those rooters to close the gap shut)
my water was left at room temp 24hrs+(no adjustments) i had soaked the rooters yesterday and then just before the bottom slice and top trim this morning
temps and RH on point, couldn't find my t5 so just put the mars way up top, slapped the Cam on it, so time lapse begins
the only thing that bugs me now is my seeds, i had 2 stashes of seeds that weren't labelled properly, my green crack and the random bagseed, and now I'm not sure if i picked the wrong batch of seeds, one was labelled but the label fell out, pretty sure i have the randoms, there were about 28 GC seeds left and about the same amount of randoms, i do remember black streak on the seeds for GC, so i picked the ones that didn't have those.... anyhow... if not right...then these will all be green crack again lol....which ain't bad either, my favorite smoke by far
i added my 2nd cam (SD) to the timelapse setup, the HD one has PTZ ability, i can go see both from anywhere, peace of mind 😉
ok, saw some roots at the bottom of the rooters, so transferred over to the netpots, only one seed seems to not have popped yet so we'll see...
using voodoo juice and megacrop A-B (@800ec)
here's what i'm thinking for my tent setup, i need access to all 3 totes and want to have the lights overlap as much as possible, forgot that i'll be adding the Mars TS1000W to the mix, this is what i'm pondering...
i prefer setup 2
Mylar wall 😉 , so the turquoise part is the full tent, i would cram it all into a 3.5' x 5' area type deal with a small crawl space in the middle, need daily access to the totes, and as it grows bigger i can expand the space, so i always have a wall by the edge of the canopy to not lose photons
6-8 so far, one more hopefully with #7 (i saw a tail), still holding hope for #8 too 😉
i've decided to add 2x King Kush bagseeds i had, 2 of 8 of the random bagseeds didn't make it out of the rooters 🙁
so plopped some scuffed seeds in water just now, will go directly to the rooter from the water, it's already at the right temp in there...wish me luck, this way I'll still have 8 😉
ok, so layout in my head and actual layout a little different...
those totes are huge, so this is what i came up with...
I'll have a corner to work in for water checks, but also a little better access to both sides by shifting the tent a bit 😉 if there's a will, there's a way...
so now both my QBs can overlap side by side over the 2 totes with 2 holes and add the mars where the 4 plant tote is
I'll add a mylar wall to that corner to make a 4x5 with one side and a 5x3 with the other with 3x4 of overlapping space (2x1 will be curtained off)
then, since i had way too much mylar, i made covers for my totes, way better than those cardboard pieces i made, and will be affixed to the lid, much better, and completely light proof, 2 done, now the rest...fatty first 😉
Grower Love Y'all 🙂
changed the mars for the QB, plants lovin' it.
no sign from king kush yet, crossing fingers 🙂
i simply rotated my 5x5 tent counterclockwise and now have full access from 3 sides, should've done this from the start...
All coming together now for the big switch over, i have another UPS coming to have a little more backup if power goes out again (for the air pumps and a fan) had a 1500VA unit, now i'll have a 2nd one 😉
I had about 2hrs with just air pumps, now with a fan too i get under 40 mins, so one more unit will help a lot, one for the fan (or 2), and one for the DWC res air pumps (most important ones)
Growth picking up now, i can pretty much confirm these are the random bagseeds, those leaves look way fatter than the GC ones last grow, noticeable growth from yesterday too 😉
plus i see a little something on one of the King Kush
Tomorrow should be a good day (fingers crossed)
now i see #2 King Kush coming thru, oh yeah, #1 lookin' good too, Ill have my 8, Great 😉
2 for sure King Kush, rest....we'll have to wait and see, kind of like that, the suspense is nice
temps steady at 28C, RH 70%, EC 860 PH 5.8, all by the book, so far so good, the transfer happens soon, started 'making' my water (I just fill a bunch of 5gal pales from the tub and let'em sit overnight, pretty simple recipe, good water up north 😉 )
ok so first off
Congrats to @turtle for the Draw Win, and @sleeplesswalker for the JOTW !!!
pretty cool to get free stuff for doing what you love 🙂
so after seeing sleep's setup, it got me thinking of my lids, they have nothing to clip to, and now i added mylar floppy stuff on top, so i came up with this....
gonna strategically screw in those screws on the blue mylar covered lids (self tapping 1/4") in a 'Atlantis' pattern around the netpots so i can brace from different growth periods, the 5gal pales had a convenient edge all around, but became useless pretty quick (too narrow), I'll do the same for my 8 spot lid too, to be able to do some LST earlier
the idea is I'll just screw thru the mylar and lid, that'll keep it in place, I may need something to keep the mylar down, and a backing piece to screw into for strength underneath, probably will be the same solution top-bottom, gotta find that magic piece, needs to be waterproof and solid without being brittle)
so when i lift my lid for changes, the LST bracing follows it, very important, that's why i cant use a cage or scrog, the whole shebang has to rise with the lids....no can do, i could with electric motors etc, but that's another project
ok enough talking...now to put this to practical action , wish me luck, any advice welcome