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This will be the 2nd run through my 20 gal No-Till.  After the first run (which I was pleased with), I planted alfalfa sprouts and stuck them under my cobs at the dimmest they can go.  Topped the pots with a high N blend of amendments and also worked it into the side of the pot (where soil meets fabric).  I continued to water on the same schedule but with less frequency.  

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On to the plants...

2 Phantom OG fem from Barney's Farm

Genetics- Phantom Cookies x OG Kush

Slightly more sativa at 55%, 55-65 days flower, and can grow tall 120 cm/4'ish.  These gals got topped leaving eight branches/four nodes.

https://www.barneysfarm.com/phantom-og-433

3 Quick Mass fem from Exotic Seeds

Genetics- Critical Mass X (Critical Mass X White Widow) F4

Indica dominant at 65%, 6-7 weeks flower, and suggested to grow in a SoG style.  Not a lot of lateral branching so we'll see what topping at the 3rd node (6 branches) does.  I can pull clones for a SoG later.

https://www.exoticseed.eu/products/quick-mass

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These started germination on 2/28.  Three days later all had popped but one POG had one came out a monocotyledon.  That made it easy to choose the five I wanted for the pots.  As a test, I still watered it and after a month it started growing...kinda (I'll get a current picture of it).  All were planted in 2.5" seedling pots with roots organics orginal/myco granules. 

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3/28 they were transplanted into 3 gal pots with top rolled over.  This soil is my first mix, now recycled so also 2nd time around.  They were topped on 4/10. Then transplanted into the 20 gal on 4/12, 1/2 cup EWC 1/4 tsp azo 1/2 tsp myco in the hole.  Topped with a even NPK blend of amendments and got throughly watered, then mulched (two parts pine bark/ one part cocoa hulls).

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They have been sharing the lights with my challange plants.  They will join the mystery girl and the PP clone that didn't die, under the cobs.  Their neighbors will be two ISS clones in a SCroG under the Samsung strips.

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They have been receiving basically RO water with one tea.  The No-Till water schedule goes like this.  (borrowed from MOFO and is not mine, maybe you've read it)

#1 water

#2 n/a 

#3 MBP, aloe powder, fulvic acid , silica (I use DE)

#4 n/a 

#5 water

#6 kelp meal/neem meal tea

#7 n/a 

#8 water 

#9 n/a 

#10 coconut water- 1/4 - 1/2 cup per gal

#11 n/a 

I don't use the soil mix they do but it worked great on my last plants.  I added in and veg/transition tea.

#12 water 

#13 n/a

#14 Alfalfa Meal tea

#15 n/a

The numbers represent days.  So when the plant isn't taking in as much water in the beginning I use less and increase the amount as the plants mature.  

Temps have been kinda low at 75 high 68 low.  RH pretty much stays at 50-60% at that temp.  When the lights get turned up in the flower room I'll get a couple more degrees. 

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That should be it....I think

 

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Oh yeah here is the sprouted monocotyledon

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The girls seem to like their new home 

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This Quick Mass is taking off

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Also this Phantom OG 

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Here are some flower pics

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Moved some leaves and the soil comes to life

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These girls are really filling out, not sure I can wait until may 6th-ish to flip.  Well...all but this POG.  She is not liking the bigger ring or didn't like the topping, maybe the transplant?  Looks like she'll catch up once all her tops curl around the ring.

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They are on the end of the watering cycle (I started on #5 water, list at the top) and started my fermented alfalfa tea [1tbsp alfalfa/2 gal] on #10 coconut water night.

Here are the same two from the last post, one Quick Mass and one Phantom OG 

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Monocotyledon hanging out with the big girls

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Had to move the girls over to the flower room.  I cut some clones off of each incase any are worth keeping around.  The one Phantom OG caught up after a good underneath trimming.

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Lights are around 24" at 80-85% and plugged in the red/far red monos.  I will turn them up gradually over the next week.  Temps have been hovering around 75 but rh has been 60%.  Hopefully the few degrees I get from the cobs brings that down.  Should just get a DeHum and switch for my environmental controller to have more control.  

They will recieve their kelp/neem meal tea tonight.  There have been no signs of deficiencies or stalled growth.  The real test for the no-till is yet to come though.🤞

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The two immediate neighbors are doing great.  They did have to move over when the other girls moved in. 

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These two ISS are not doing so well.  Not sure which sign to address.  Looks like maybe there's a K, Mg, or S deficiency.  It has been slow going and they seem to be developing ok.  The new growth on most of the buds is nice and green, some are cupped under, drooping down, and slightly yellowing.  A little bit of tip burn everywhere which is curling up. 

7 gal, 1st soil mix, mostly water, recently light soluble seaweed, a little Epsom salt, and a brewed tea.

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What do you think?

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Just saw this, very weird

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Girls looking great and blowing up.  Coconut water tonight (3gal water, 3/4 cup coconut water/5 plants) and started my "fermented" alfalfa tea. They missed the last one, I started it too early and it was up there with one of the worst smells ever.

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Roots are loving the mulch layer

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Got a few degrees but no change in rh really.  It has been raining here for the last two week so I expect it to change once the spring rains subside. 

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These gals are looking a little worse.  Have been giving light doses of Epsom salt and soluble seaweed.  Checked the pH of this soil, for shits and grins, hovers around 7.  I hope to not let these two get too much farther away from me...

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10 days and pistils!  These girls have now grown taller the neighbors and looks like they are not done.  Gaining an inch or two each day.  Keeping the lights at 24" full power now. 

I've trimmed off any branches lower than the main canopy or ones that wouldn't produce, that became green mulch. Pinched all the main branches 4-5 nodes down.  Not much spreading out can go on, just have to keep them from getting too unruly.  

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They are up to about a gallon each every other day.  Turns out I should have just left the alfalfa tea go longer, the first time, and it would have been fine.  Going to get some bark fines mulch this week, also some malted grains from the brew store. I need to replace a few of the item I've been using so those will be ordered/found too.  The deeper I go into no-till, the more I like it.  

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Mystery gal from the NYGC, supposed to be an auto.

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Purple Punch

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Island Sweet Skunk

Still producing something despite my mistakes.

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Hello all,

It's been a bit so I figured it's time for and update.  I have had to raise the light over 12" since the last post, they're still climbing.  My dehum and switch came so installed those.  (I'll talk about that at the end)

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Overall I am very pleased with the growth and bud production so far.  A few real low under canopy leaves have began to fade and fall but I would say just lack of light.  A new layer of hardwood/bark fines mulch was added with some more green material.  Also, a handful of worms for each pot.  Other than that I have stuck to the schedule.  They are up to a gallon every other day.

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Now the rh issue.  So my temps have been a touch low and my rh a touch high.  I ordered a dehum and switch for my EV controller, installed, and then set the parameters. 

Then I was getting a touch too high of temps and stable RH.  So I looked at my accurite meters and both were the same or real close, but lower rh than the EVC.  I then adjusted the EVC sensor to the rh value of those meters but still running a touch hot.  Let's switch out the dehums! I took the dehum that keeps my regular basement area (which is smaller) and switched it out for my grow room one.  Problem solved stable temps and RH without having to modify the room.  

Here's the quandary, for shits and giggles I stuck my caliber meters in there last night and the RH on those was 11% (44-45% rh) lower, on both, than the accurite meters.  Also, the dehum that keeps the rest of the basement in check is set at 45%.  The meter on the new dehum, and old one for that matter, reads 44-45% rh.   

What's right here?  The accurites? The calibers? If you need more info or me to explain it better please ask, I'd like to hear any opinions. Here are the graphs from the last seven days, hope to stabilize these more over the next week.  

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Not too much going on.  33 days from flip and 23 days from pistils.  Temps 78-80 rh 52-57% (day) forgot to check the night stats but I'm sure are within reason.  Lights full power at 24".

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Stopped F'in around and got the 50# bag.  $25, give or take, for 5#, or $100 for 50#.  What's the better deal?  Same with alfalfa meal, 50#.

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Some bud shots 

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My peonies are doing well 😊

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Added some friends to the veg room.  Plus some herbs that need to be transplanted before coming in; peppermint, lavender, rosemary, lemon balm, and comfrey (planting outside).  All either bio accumulators or insect protection and will be used as green mulch or making compost/vermicompost. 

Some B-52 venus fly traps for fun really but maybe a little IP.  Although, I am seeing less and less bugs as I get rid of all other styles of growing.

Aloe for my scheduled waterings and foliar; will alternate between powdered and these.  

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Week 7 starts today, day 43 (from flip) and 33 days from pistils.  This Quickmass strain is quite impressive!  The Phantom OG not so much but maybe her value will be shown when smoked.  

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Not much else going on.  Up to about 7 gallons for the five gals, every other day. 

Here's some bud shots...

Quickmass #1 - looks like the most weight, light/pale orange or pink pistils 

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Quickmass #2 - smaller than #3

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Quickmass #3 - beautiful bright orange pistils and decent looking weight

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Phantom OG #1 - less weight than #2

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Phantom OG #2 - nice even buds throughout the plant, double pistils compared to #1

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This empty space makes me sad...the wife loves the lower power usage though 

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I mixed six more no till pots (30 gallons) and planted 6 Purple Punch clones that have long awaiting a transplant.  They have been in 1 gallon pots for 4-5 weeks. 

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Ok bye 

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Busted out the wifi USB microscope 

Getting close, some of them

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Harvested the girls 

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There ended up being a good amount of solid buds but they all had their share of fluff.  I should have trimmed out more of the lower nodes off my mains.  Also should have cleaned up those remaining branches on the bottoms.  

I need to get 670 grams to make it a gram per watt.  I did have 2 plants that shared the light up until roughly four weeks ago.  I got about 100 grams from each of those.  Not sure if I can count those for this.

Phantom OG #1 8 weeks 3 days from flip (breeder 55-65 days)

Quickmass #3 8 weeks 4 days from flip (breeder 6-7 weeks)

Quickmass #1 8 weeks 5 days from flip (breeder 6-7 weeks)

Phantom OG #2 8 weeks 6 days from flip (breeder 55-65 days)

Quickmass #2  9 weeks from flip (breeder 6-7 weeks)

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Starting the cure, the first three cut got 7 days on their hang.  Then 6 and 5 for the last two.  All are sitting about 53-55% on my calibers.  A little lower than I want but I forgot to raise the basement dehum by 5%.  I also had to harvest over several days which didn't sustain a higher rh for the last ones cut.  They all still stink! A lot.

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Bud shots after the cure 

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I decided to weigh a little early just to see the weight.  The difference in weight will be negligible.  They got up to and have been hovering around 56-58% in the bags which is perfect for me. 

Here are the numbers...

10 days seedling stage 8 weeks 1 day veg

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Phantom OG #1 = 150.2 👆

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Phantom OG #2 = 153.4 👆

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Quickmass #1 = 179.2 👆

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Quickmass #2 = 169.1 👆

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Quickmass #3 = 214.8 👆 Woo!

 

That equals out to 866.7 g

÷ 670 watts = 1.29 grams/watt

Didn't think I was going to make it by just looking at them but they put on some serious density. 

Smells...both strains still have the generic sweet smell with a little green.

Phantom OG - there are prominent smells of citrus/lemon w/ slight floral and spice notes.  When broken/ground up it gets a pungent skunky fuel smell.  More time is needed on the cure obviously but it is smokable and fairly smooth right now.  This is both plants, as they are similar 

Quickmass - #1 is a very heavy smell, reminds me of GOO.  Very berry/fruit punch but musky at the same time.  Notes of incense also.

Quickmass - #2-3 pretty close to #1 but lighter on those notes but with a heavier earthy smell.  Next closest note would be a sandalwood-ish smell.  All three of these when broken/ground up are outrageous! Straight skunk (#1 being a little deeper) that fills every room in your house, FAST!  I hear that's what critical strains do.

All in all... I am very happy with round #2 of these pots and will keep the same schedule for any in these.  Already have some ladies in them and cover crop planted.

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